Finster:

It was nice seeing you tie things a bit more tightly in the Metrobay universe by having the Pinkster guest star in the H.E.R. TV story. I loved how her kitty ears never came off!

There is one thing I'd like to comment on though. Perhaps this is a personal preference but I think her costume needs to be a deeper shade of pink. There were several scenes in the story where because of the dark backgrounds her costume looked more violet than pink to me.

Or is this just something I'm imagining?

Hi MacroLass,

Thanks so much for your observation!

Ever since I started trying doing artwork I don't think I've ever been able to find the perfect shade of pink for Pussycat.

For me it's probably because I know her more in my mind... which probably sounds weird... but - hah - there it is.

You're probably right about the color - it's too shiny... reflects the light so much that it becomes more of a pinkish chrome than the trademark pink ( which I've had to mute the shine traditionally).

But I'll tell you. If anyone except my Grandma cares... the Pink Pussycat face and skin in Dr Robo's finale is probably the closest to my wet dreams than I've ever come and truth be told... it came by accident thankfully to Dr Robo's feedback.

Thanks so much for your observation and feebdack here!!

Finster:

It's no problem...I was just wondering if maybe I wasn't seeing something right; if there was some kind of odd coloring defect in my video card or worse if I might be going colorblind. I mean, if you aren't seeing pink on a character named *Pink* Pussycat, then that says to me that there's something wrong....

But I know what you mean about having trouble translating a character from your head onto the screen. It's the same for me writing about MacroLass.

Well, hopefully someday they'll come up with a program that has that rose Holy Grail then.

And I'm glad for you that you're close to matching your vision. Keep working and someday it will come to be.

Default Pink Pussycat has almost no shine in her 'pink' exactly because the more shine the less 'pink'. HERbot Pink Pussycat has a lot of shine which makes the pink look white-ish... or chrome-ish. Let's blame it on Sentius

I've had her face morph since Vicki3 first came out. But the human skin texture I used on her on this one really brought out that face morph better than I've ever been able to.... that's what I meant.

For HERbot Valient Grrl her white suit has close to zero shine because she'd turn whatever color the lights were in a scene. Still though, her suit is so bright in some shots it almost looks like chrome. But with her too I found a fantastic human skin texture for her face mixed with a new hair file which I think really brought out her face morph very well.

It would be interesting to know how folks thought about Mechana lately. Traditionally, I have given her a very bland flat skin look to make her seem like a robot. But in these last few updates I've given her skin texture some life. I'd be interested to know which MC fans prefer for the erotic robot effect.

Alpha Woman received the most realistic tits in this SSquad series.... right before she was turned into a HERbot. Do you all prefer that realism to the default 'super' tits? I'd find your responses interesting.

One of the most challenging characters of the whole SSquad series is Super Freak with her pinkish/reddish skin and purple hair and morph system which gave me the biggest headache of all which I'll never use again - ha ha.

Ms Metrobay's hair has been a major pain as well. I wound up using 2 different hair files for her. One looks great from the front but looks like crap from the back. The other has the opposite problem. Now that I've told you all it'll be easy to catch the switch

The actress who played Belinda at the beginning was replaced with a new actress for SSquad. But she's still a bitch through and through

There's probably more useless SSquad trivia but it's probably only interesting to me and Doc

Thanks MacroLass for your interest!

I have my own thoughts on your questions but I don't want to influence anyone else's opinion. I'll wait until the rest of you have chimed in before I speak up myself...

- Doc

My humble opinion:

I think Fin's talent comes from translation.

It might be hard to get the idea 100% perfectly into the finished product, but Fin seems to have a drive to get it as close as he possibly can and he diligently looks for ways to improve what he has worked on.

I have noticed the hairstyle changes with Valient Grrl, Alpha Woman and Ms. Metrobay. But that comes with the terrority. The more you try to do the more challenging it gets. Along with the skin tight texture of the suits and the colors, new things need to be worked in alittle different. I can draw stetches of thing very well one way. That one way limits me to a point. If I want to do it any better I have to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life forms and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before. Oops, mind shifted to Star Trek. and I'm not a trekkie

When me and Fin worked on FB for a bit, he evolved her in a few sketches, almost exactly the way I wanted FB to look like. When we did the story, he added the facial expression and small details, with very little explanation from me, exactly the way I was seeing it portrayed. I think that his experience and wisdom has giving him the experise and ability to produce top notch quality because he can translate the idea down better than most.

The relationship the Fin and Doc have makes the SS series even more better because, even though they are 2 different people with 2 different opinions, they work together to translate the best quality of storyline and poser pics. It shows in their work. You have to agree that even if in your opinion, you differ with the storyline and scenes, you can't doubt the quality of the work in all its aspects.

And they seem to have a bit of fun doing it as well. Imagine trying to get someone to come up with an idea for you to draw or someone to draw your ideas. Then, if that ever happens, getting people to like the product created. In order to acheive that you got to have desire, hope, passion and the means to do it. After you get all that, its got to be fun, else why continue it. They seem to find the fun in their work and it shows. It also has inspired other that contribute to the site to have fun in their work as well.

Well that's my 2 cents about Fin and Doc's fine work. I hope others add more comments here to help contribute to more future Fin and Doc projects or to just pay gratitude to a job well done

P.S.

I think Mechanica and Super Freak were awesomely done and added alot more to the story than u2 (Doc and Fin) think. New dimensions spark interest and changing the skin texture Mechanica to look more like a robot human did wonders for my deep dark fantasies. LOL
Also the way you portrayed the tamed beastness of Super Freak was out of this world, even though it may have been extremely hard to create.

This is going to be a long but loving rant.

I still have the original, old, old pictures of Valient Grrl saved to my computer. I just love comparing them to the modern Valient Grrl just to see how far visually Finister has come.

One of the best things I like about the art Finister does is the way he keeps adapting the heroines and making minor modifications. It makes them seem almost more human.

For example, my girlfriend jokes that Valient Grrl changes hairstyles more often than she does, which is true, to a degree, but it also reflects her own personality. She wears one hairstyle as a superheroine, another out of costume (naked ), another as a H.E.R. drone, etc. We still sort of argue over which hairstyle looks best on her (I'm going with the classic straight with bangs one), but it's an actual part of her character, and more than just a visual change.

Similarly, I find Ms. Metrobay's new hairstyle to be an improvement over the rather generic looking original. It makes her look sultrier and slightly more elegant, with that one long bang on the side really standing out. I think it was an inspired design choice.

But the other things, such as Pink Pussycat's skin texture being so more vibrant, really helps emphasize her very expressive personality. I remember her too from early designs, and now she's almost real enough that I could touch her (oh, how I wish I could.) I still think the "Pink" color is evident enough for me to see (though the chrome pink may have been a tad too white), but she's honestly never looked sexier.

Similarly with Mechana. The original, flat skin texture did its job. She was a mindless automaton, and it worked on a sort of "uncanny valley" level. But now, she's got her own personality, and in a sort of bizarre Pinnochio-style turn of event,s she's become much more human, and her very body reflects that through more expressive faces, richer skin textures, and more human mannerisms. The minor changes aren't jarring at all, but rather evolve the character both story-wise and visually. It's all in sync.

Belinda, as well, got a very good "slight" visual makeover. For a woman as distinguished as herself (in her own mind), I was always a tad disappointed she didn't take quite as good care of her body when she first appeared (a tad too skinny, untrimmed pubic region, etc.), but it appears that prison time has given her the chance to tone up a bit, resulting in slightly paler, but more eye-pleasing, skin, more curves to her body, perkier tits, and a much more expressive face (um, due to prison time, no doubt), with eyes that are much easier to read. Quite frankly, I wasn't a fan of her when she was introduced, but the subtle changes really made me like her.

But then there are even the radical changes. Solaria in particular went through one big visual make-over, and it's all for the better. Her original look was decent, but her new one really stands out and makes her stand apart as a unique individual. It would have been easy just to toss her in there as she once was, but instead Fin took the time to dress her back up in something more appealing and make her truly unique, instead of a background character.

I could go on and on, but on to the next topic: the boobs.

Ah, yes, the quintessential attribute of a superbabe. Whenever I mention this series to friends, the first thing they comment on is, naturally, the bosoms of these brave beauties. Quite frankly, it would be hard to swallow, but the subtle inclusion of a "experimental vitamins in the water supply" actually explains alot, including how some "side-effects" yielded superpowers.

But, like their powers and their personalities, no two are alike. While Ms. Metrobay reigns queen of the big, perky love pillows, others like Marcy have big, yet reasonably-sized breasts that compliment her girl-next-door image. Alpha Woman has the most realistic breasts by far, with enough sexy droop to keep them appealing for their size, and quite frankly I might be inclined to like hers the most. Valient Grrl's are only decent by comparison (sad when "42 G" are "decent" by comparison in Metrobay. ), but her strength gives her a very noticeable perkiness and firmness to them. Mechana's breasts are huge too, but believable given her source (Ms. Metrobay) and her superstrength to support the. Even Belinda's "mesquito bite" tits serve to enhance her character, as she's hardly small-chested, but in a world of amazons with minimums of Double D's, she stands out, and that almost makes her feel like she's trying to compensate, much like guys might for similar reasons with other things.

This is all a roundabout way of basically praising the hell out of the visuals and the art direction. It's great. No, not good, GREAT. Brilliant. Inspired. I can honestly show this stuff to strangers and they are immediately impressed, not just with the realism of the characters, but their overall designs, personalities, and little physical details that compliment their character. I could easily see any one of these heroines back-to-back with the greatest that Marvel and DC have to offer.

But now comes the hard question: Who makes a sexier maid? Ms. Metrobay or Belinda?

You all definitely make this stuff a lot of fun!!

And you're great for the ego too

Thanks for the kind words... it's funny to hear how all the character changes have been noticed.

Works for me...


To me it's not the skin tone that makes her more mechanical (though that "flawlessness" certainly adds to the overall impression), it's the costume. Combined with her metallically unyeilding form including her boobs her outfit is just so obviously unable to be worn by any woman actually of flesh and blood (including I think even members of the Squad) that it effectively marks her status as a non flesh and blood entity. A normal woman might be able to get that to adhere to herself with enough spirit gum but there's certainly no way you'd be able to move or even fight in an outfit that impractical.


It's good that you leave yourself "someplace to go" with the issue of breast size I think. Variance in size and shape makes the art more interesting to look at and helps with visual identification (which, as the issue with PP's color shows, isn't always solved by showing the costume, especially if they're nekkid). Which do I like better? That's hard to say. It's kind of a situational thing.


Shelly was just...odd. Though she was different in appearance from the Squad members she didn't look weird ENOUGH for that to be a factor in my appreciation of her. She didn't really look red to me, just kind of flushed like an all over blush...certainly understandable for a character who embodies primal arousal as the rationale for her powers.

If you do end up using her again I would suggest that she falls deeper and deeper under Max's spell, finding fulfillment in her role as his slave/sextoy. That could lead to an interesting conflict between Max and the Squad as they try to rescue and/or deprogram her. Does freedom of choice include the right for one to become a sexual object? What if, say, some of the H.E.R.bots decided that they wanted to stay as robowomen...would true heroines FORCE them to go back to lives they no longer want?

Then again, that might be a touch deep for a webcomic that deals in nude tied up superheroines. "SHOW ME TH BEWBS!"


I noticed that as well. It's a change for the better I think, I have to agree with Akonkid.

If we had categories:
-Ms.Metrobay would win overall looks - having a knockout babe superheroine totally mindlessly obedient is very sexy and every horny red blooded person's dream, but...
-Belinda would win for the sumission of a powerful mind. And, that is as about as sexy as it comes. The concept of totally controling a powerful mind and making it submissive to someone more clever is totally sexy and erotic as well.

At least that is how I would see it.

The top most natural and mouth watering for me are as fallows
1)Ms Metrobay
2)Alpha Woman
3)Brown Sugar
4)Pink Pussycat
5)Jade Lighting

The fallowing are less so and sort of a distraction and in no particular order
Mechanica, Wild Thing, Valiant Girl and as much as I hate to say it Marcy. Although in the last few pannels she had a more realistic look to the tone and shape.
Now I sound like Im knocking the art work but I know I couldn't do anywhere close to the fine work Finster does. I just wonder how the differance come about. I know Mechanica should look more artifical since she is entirly fabricated but I am confused how Marcy and Wild thing look like the attachment of the tits were an afterthought.
I only bring this up since the topic was started. I stay for the story and I think Marcy with her pure and innocent nature is so coruptable and thus who ever dines out on that feast and turns her nature to base evil will have chosen a juicy plumb.
And Wild Thing having been a brilliant woman and now is a creature who is more Id then Ego and like a Cavewoman has alot of potential as a conflicted personality as she tries to reconcile herself to her new drives and urges.

It's okay, Vestia. We know the difference between constructive criticism and just plain old badmouthing when we see it. Happily, there seems to be very little of the latter on this messageboard. I am grateful for that.

Most of what you mentioned can be attributed to (blamed on?) the limitations of the rendering software. You can only blow the chest up so much before they start to look like balloons. So, you can blame Super Freak's less-than-natural look on me.

Also, the shapes and sizes of their busts are somewhat dependent on prefabricated 'molds' (for lack of a better term) and there's only so many different choices out there before they all start to look alike.

Those of you who are artists, please feel free to correct me if need be.

- Doc

No, Doc makes a great point. If you were to just have the figures and nothing else, they all have different shapes and sizes. Solaria is more athletic looking than her bustier and curvier best friend Snowflake. Valient Grrl is much more toned and perkier than her more normal-bodied lover Alpha Woman. Mechana is, basically, a walking, talking love doll with oversized boobs that drive home her gynoid nature. Super Freak is, well, bigger everywhere. Basically, if you only had their shadows, I bet you could guess which heroine was which.

Here are my favorites (in no particular order... yeah right):
1) Valient Grrl - classic superheroine physique and uniform, sultry yet inexperienced, headstrong yet impressionable. She's got the looks and the personality to match.

2) Belinda - I didn't like her at first, but she grew on me ALOT. Between her super-bitchy, hypersexed personality and scheming, manipulative genius and her skunk-haired, underutilized sexual physique, she's one of those gals that's so hot because she's so bad. She's that "girl you don't tell your mom about" when you're dating her 'cause she's a bit of a freak. Lol.

3) Mechana- Another heroine I didn't particular like at first due to not much of a personality, Mechana's current self is a dynamo of feminine sex appeal and appealing strength. She's got the best bits of the headstrong Valient Grrl with the bust of Ms. Metrobay and the naivity of a Grrl Power cadet. Winner all the way there.

4) Blackout - She's like Rogue from the X-men for me. Someone who is very gifted, very sexy, but a bit of a threat to every hero and villain around her. You don't want to get too close to her. Despite that, she's got a perky personality (and body), a lot of energy, a bit naive, and she's cute and sexy as hell... and she doesn't even seem that aware of it yet. I hope her "muffin" gets more of a workout in the future... this girl has a ton of potential.

5) Pink Pussycat - She's one of those classic heroines like Valient Grrl. The simplicity of her design is her greatest strength. She's upbeat, charismatic, scrappy, talkative, and stubborn... works for me. She's cute as a button, and athletic and (un)lucky enough to wind up in so many interesting situations. Someone once mentioned that she could very well be "the face" of Hipcomix and I'd be hard pressed to disagree. She's quite the memorable heroine.

Okay, another rant over.